After the Dreams: Corruption in Heaven and Earth

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  1. Introduction: extrabiblical sources
    1. Those ccepted by most teachers
    2. Those less accepted by Evangelicals
      1. Rabbinical writings
      2. Apocryphal works
      3. Other ANE sources
      4. Patristic work
  2. Seth’s line
    1. Terminology
    2. Timeline
    3. Alternate sources
    4. Chronological uncertainties
      1. Observations:
      2. Conclusions:
    5. Patriarchal longevity
  3. Corruption
    1. Second celestial rebellion
      1. The sons of God
      2. The daughters of men
      3. The Nephilim
    2. Consequences
      1. Shades of the Nephilim
      2. Demons
      3. Post-Flood giants
      4. Timing of the rebellion

In Genesis 1:1–5, Day 1 and a number of earlier posts I presented a case for Old Earth Creationism and why I believe that Genesis 1 can only be interpreted as a visionary prophetic revelation, not a literal historical account.

In a follow-up post, Moshe’s Week of Dreams, I presented a hypothesis as to why Genesis 1 reads as it does: My suggestion is that, in a series of six visionary dreams, Moses received revelation of God’s solo role in creation. Not “how I did it”, but “it was I, and I alone, who created everything that is!”

Most recently, in After the Dreams: Day 7 Thru Seth, I did a follow-up expository study on chapters 2 through 4 of Genesis, concentrating on issues that I think are poorly understood—doctrinal fallacy based on traditional assumptions, not on solid Biblical evidence. Some topics discussed:

  • The origin of angels.
  • The function of the Garden.
  • The nature of the Serpent.
  • Satan as a name vs satan as a function.
  • Were the animal skins a blood sacrifice?
  • The closing and fate of the Garden.
  • Why Cain’s offering was rejected.

I’m going to continue that survey here, covering the rest of pre-Flood Biblical history.

My plan currently is to finish the series with a post on the recovery from the Flood, the Tower of Babel and its consequences, and the identity and life of Nimrod.

Introduction: extrabiblical sources

The entire subject matter that I want to cover in this post and the next, with the exception of the Flood story, are given very limited coverage in the Bible itself. I believe that a better understanding of these topics can be reached using non-Biblical literature from the Second Temple period through the early Rabbinic period, meaning, for my purposes, primarily the 4th century BC through the 4th century AD.

I have heard Christians at Bible Studies say, “If it isn’t in the Bible, then I’m not interested.” I understand that they are speaking from their love of God and their faith in His Word. For most Christians, that is a commendable attitude. I would suggest, though, that these folks don’t understand how pastors, teachers, and Christian authors, as well as entire local churches and denominations, work.

Not everything in the Bible is crystal clear. Every entity I just listed has an official doctrinal stance and a vast body of tradition, hopefully founded on Scripture, but understood with the help of extrabiblical supplementation.

Every lesson taught, every sermon preached, every book written by even the most devout and Bible-oriented human being expresses the viewpoint of that individual, as formed by the Bible but influenced by other factors in his or her personal environment. Nobody agrees fully with anyone else, and nobody gets everything right.

Concerning written influences:

Those ccepted by most teachers

Most Sunday School classes and Bible studies supplement their Bibles with quarterlies, workbooks, topical books and expository works by popular writers, and so on. Some are quite good, others abysmal. Most good sermons are prepared with the help of Bible commentaries and dictionaries, lexicons, theological guides, and multiple translations of the Scripture itself. Sometimes secular encyclopedias, history books, cultural studies and maps are used.

A lot of the material I just listed is very helpful, but none of it is inerrant!

Most of the time, you don’t know where your pastor, teacher, or your favorite blogger is getting supplemental source material.

Those less accepted by Evangelicals

Other information sources may be far less trusted by Evangelical Christians because of sectarian bias or ignorance of their content, but they are often still useful. The sources from this selection that I am most likely to use on occasion fall into several categories:

Rabbinical writings

This category seems to be anathema to many Evangelicals. Not because they revile Jews, necessarily, but because they view Judaism as something that Jesus rendered obsolete and therefore void of any value to Christians. My view is directly opposite. I don’t think that one can fully understand Christianity without also understanding Judaism. I find the Talmuds and other Jewish theological works, both early and modern, to be incredibly useful.

Apocryphal works

I am using that term here in a general sense to include the books known formally as “the Apocrypha“, many of which are considered canonical to some major denominations, plus other Second Temple writings, many of which are termed “Pseudepigraphal” because they purport to be written by someone other than the true author.

I consider these documents in general to be “historical fiction“, containing important seeds of truth. The dialog in these texts is somewhere between exaggerated and completely fanciful. The plot and historical background originate from, I believe, a combination of (a) canonical Scripture, (b) older written history, and (c) verbally transmitted lore. Use them with caution, but don’t ignore them!

Perhaps the best known of such works are the pseudepigraphal book, 1 Enoch, and The Book of Giants from the Dead Sea Scrolls. These two works, in particular, were accepted as truth, at least in part, by many intelligent and educated wise men of the ancient world, including some of the Church Fathers of the Patristic Age. I am using them extensively for this particular post.

Other ANE sources

Additionally, since the earliest cuneiform and hieroglyphic writings in some of the earliest civilizations, the legends of the Ancient Near East (ANE) have been faithfully recorded. Since they write about some of the same events as are found in the Bible and ancient Jewish extrabiblical texts, they provide outside confirmation and often suggest additional clarifying information.

Creation, “angelic” sin, the Nephilim, the Flood, the Tower, and the confusion of tongues are all topics I’m covering in this series that are both Biblical and widely reported in the greater ANE. Neither the Bible nor the legends are copycats; both reflect a common body of ancient memory.

Patristic work

These are the writings of the so-called Patristic Church Fathers in the early centuries after the dispersal of the Biblical apostles and the destruction of the Temple. These works are revered by Catholics, Orthodox denominations, and some Protestants. Certainly, these men contributed in huge ways to early Church theology. Personally, I find myself often taking sides against their theological conclusions, but I do profit from their thoughts and the history contained in their work.

Seth’s line

Genesis 4:25–5:32

This passage is a somewhat lengthy genealogy of Adam, from Seth through Noah. It serves as a toledah separating the Cain and Abel narrative from the corruption story. Even the genealogies of the bible are interesting to me, and I quote this one in full!

Reminder: A toledah (plural toledoth) is a passage in Genesis that (a) announces itself, when translated, as a “genealogy” or some related noun; and (b) serves as a notice that the subject of the text is changing. Think of them as Noah’s chapter headings.

25 And Adam knew his wife again, and she bore a son and called his name Seth, for she said, “God has appointed for me another offspring instead of Abel, for Cain killed him.” 26 To Seth also a son was born, and he called his name Enosh. At that time people began to call upon the name of the LORD.

1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. When God created man, he made him in the likeness of God. 2 Male and female he created them, and he blessed them and named them Man when they were created. 3 When Adam had lived 130 years, he fathered a son in his own likeness, after his image, and named him Seth. 4 The days of Adam after he fathered Seth were 800 years; and he had other sons and daughters. 5 Thus all the days that Adam lived were 930 years, and he died.

6 When Seth had lived 105 years, he fathered Enosh. 7 Seth lived after he fathered Enosh 807 years and had other sons and daughters. 8 Thus all the days of Seth were 912 years, and he died.

9 When Enosh had lived 90 years, he fathered Kenan. 10 Enosh lived after he fathered Kenan 815 years and had other sons and daughters. 11 Thus all the days of Enosh were 905 years, and he died.

12 When Kenan had lived 70 years, he fathered Mahalalel. 13 Kenan lived after he fathered Mahalalel 840 years and had other sons and daughters. 14 Thus all the days of Kenan were 910 years, and he died.

15 When Mahalalel had lived 65 years, he fathered Jared. 16 Mahalalel lived after he fathered Jared 830 years and had other sons and daughters. 17 Thus all the days of Mahalalel were 895 years, and he died.

18 When Jared had lived 162 years, he fathered Enoch. 19 Jared lived after he fathered Enoch 800 years and had other sons and daughters. 20 Thus all the days of Jared were 962 years, and he died.

21 When Enoch had lived 65 years, he fathered Methuselah. 22 Enoch walked with God after he fathered Methuselah 300 years and had other sons and daughters. 23 Thus all the days of Enoch were 365 years. 24 Enoch walked with God, and he was not, for God took him.

25 When Methuselah had lived 187 years, he fathered Lamech. 26 Methuselah lived after he fathered Lamech 782 years and had other sons and daughters. 27 Thus all the days of Methuselah were 969 years, and he died.

28 When Lamech had lived 182 years, he fathered a son 29 and called his name Noah, saying, “Out of the ground that the LORD has cursed, this one shall bring us relief from our work and from the painful toil of our hands.” 30 Lamech lived after he fathered Noah 595 years and had other sons and daughters. 31 Thus all the days of Lamech were 777 years, and he died.

32 After Noah was 500 years old, Noah fathered Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

—Genesis 4:25-5:32 (ESV)

Terminology

Just a few comments here on the terminology for man, mankind, etc. In the quotations below, I have underlined some that I find especially interesting.

  • The first few chapters of Genesis introduce us to the principal Hebrew words for man and mankind.

1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him; 2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
Genesis 5:1-2 (KJV)

What does it mean by “called their name Adam“? The three words underlined above are all the same Hebrew word, אָדָם, transliterated as “adam“, and pronounced “ah-DAHM”. This is a generic term for “man”, “mankind”, or “human.” Though it is the same word exactly, Strong’s has assigned a separate index number for it when it is used as the personal name of the man in the Garden, Adam. Hebrew has no alphabetic case, but later English translations sometimes use a lower-case “a”, “adam”, for the generic “mankind” usage.

Adam” comes from a Hebrew root meaning “red.” As does the related word אֲדָמָה (adamah), meaning “earth”, referring not to the planet, but rather to the ground, especially (over 200 times in the Old Testament) to tilled land, productive soil, or Israel’s productive land in particular.

Adam was formed from the dust of the adamah. I take this to mean, specifically, from soil in the fertile but arid ground where God subsequently planted the Garden.

  • Another term for the “man” concept is used Genesis 3, when Eve is made from Adam’s rib:

23 And Adam (Adam) said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman (ishshah), because she was taken out of Man (ish).
—Genesis 2:23 (KJV)

This time, “man” is אִישׁ (iysh or ish, pronounced eesh). It is a more formal word for a particular man or men, often meaning “husband”, as implied here. It is also used, for example, in Gen 6:4 in reference to “mighty men [הַגִּבֹּרִ֛ים, haggibborim, “the mighty warriors”], which were of old, men [iysh] of renown.”

It makes some kind of linguistic sense that being taken out of “man” makes her “woman”, but how does that work in Hebrew? In Hebrew, “woman” is אִשָּׁה (ishshah, pronounced eesh-SHAH).

  • Yet another term related to iysh is found here:

[6] And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband (enowsh) with her; and he did eat.
—Genesis 3:6 (KJV)

In this case, the Hebrew is אֱנוֹשׁ (enowsh, pronounced eh-NOHSH), meaning something more like “mortal man.” A bit derogatory. Think of it as, “Uh, just a guy.”

Timeline

Adam to the Flood, through Seth. Note that Methuselah died in the year of the Flood, suggesting that he may have died in the Flood. ©Ron Thompson

I prepared the above chart many years ago, from one of the many English translations based on the 11th century AD Masoretic Text of Genesis. The Masoretic Text is a compendium of the earliest extant Hebrew manuscripts of the Old Testament and Apocrypha that were available prior to discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls. English language Bibles from both Christian and Jewish translators are usually based on the Masoretic Text.

The Dead Sea Scrolls, copies penned between roughly the 2nd century BC through the 1st century AD, are more fragmented, but comparisons demonstrate that relatively little corruption has degraded the much later Masoretic source manuscripts.

The chart below shows the principal lines of descent through Adam’s three sons, Cain, Abel and Seth. Note that there were other sons and daughters born at each level of the genealogy (see, for example, Gen 5:4). At least one ancient source suggests that Adam, for example, had 30 sons and 30 daughters, thanks to his long breeding cycle.

A genealogy of Adam and Eve. The similarities between the names of some of Cain’s descendants and some of Seth’s suggest to me that there was renewed contact between the families.

I believe that this genealogy is accurate as listed in Genesis, but it is possible that some generations are skipped for one reason or another. In my next article, as part of my discussion of Nimrod, I will provide more context on the flexibility of the Hebrew term translated “begat.” Even theologian John Witcomb, Henry Morris’ coauthor of The Genesis Flood, acknowledged that possibility and mentioned that it could potentially push Ussher’s proposed creation week back in time several thousand years. The wording of the genealogy makes me doubt that but see below for other potential sources of error.

Additionally, as an Old Earth Creationist, I believe that God’s human creations in Genesis 1:26 predated Adam and Eve (see Moshe’s Week of Dreams). When the latter were driven from the Garden, they joined the older races, who had by then spread throughout at least the Eastern Hemisphere. These are the people who Cain thought might kill him, and from whom he obtained a wife.

Intermarriage between Adam’s race and the old races was probably frequent before The Flood, and that would explain why the genome of modern humans, descended from Noah and his wife, still contain traces of even Neanderthal DNA.

Alternate sources

The chart below, from the World Bible Commentary, presents the same information as my chart, but adds columns based on two other important sources, the Samaritan Pentateuch and the Septuagint (LXX).

Wenham, Gordon J. Genesis 1–15. WBC 1. Accordance electronic edition, version 1.9. Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1987.

The Septuagint is a translation of the Hebrew Scriptures into Koine Greek by Jewish scholars living in Alexandria, probably beginning in the early 3rd century BC and completed by 132 BC. The name of the translation derives from traditional belief that there were 70 to 72 translators. The “abbreviation”, LXX, is by convention read like an acronym (“el-ex-ex”), but of course it is actually the Roman numeral 70.

The LXX is an extremely important source because the New Testament writers, including Paul and the Gospel authors, used it almost exclusively when quoting the Tanakh (Old Testament), and because very early copies exist. I don’t often quote from English translations of the LXX (though I do in this article), but I use it extensively for comparative research.

Evolution of the Hebrew Script

The Samaritan Pentateuch is another widely used early manuscript of the Old Testament. It was written in a Samaritan dialect of Hebrew and Aramaic, using the earlier Proto-Hebrew alphabet. It is dated from as early as the Late Hasmonean or Early Roman period, and as late as the 4th century AD. Most of this document is similar to the Masoretic and LXX, but there are a few important differences where edits were made to justify Samaritan doctrinal variations. I don’t use this at all because I don’t have an English translation. I do have a Hebrew version, but though I can translate Hebrew myself, it is a slow and arduous process at my level of fluency.

It is interesting that the Samaritan numbers show Jared (Yared), Methuselah and Lamek all dying in the year of the flood.

Chronological uncertainties

You will note from the chart above that there are significant differences in the chronologies shown in the various columns. Let’s ask ourselves what the figures in this table tell us about, for example, the accuracy of Archbishop Ussher’s Biblical dating? I am an Old Earth Creationist, but I’m quite willing to put God’s formation of Adam and Eve somewhere around 4004 BC.

Observations:
  • Most of the entries from the Masoretic (MT) text are multiples of 5 years. This is too many to be coincidental, suggesting that the figures are rounded off to the nearest five years. Three of the entries for age at first son’s birth and two for years of life after first son’s birth are adjusted to nearest five + seven, for reasons that aren’t known.
  • The entries for the Samaritan columns are the same as MT for five generations, rounding included, then deviate for all the rest except Enoch and Noah. In two instances, the seven-year adjustment is a subtraction. In three of the last four generations, total life span is significantly different from other sources, so we now have to ask which text is flat-out wrong.
  • The LXX agrees closely with the Samaritan in general. In eight of the first nine generations, it has the age at first son a century later, but in six of those cases the father’s age of death is the same.
Conclusions:
  • By definition, there was probably only one original “autograph” of Genesis. Every manuscript after that was a hand copy until Gutenberg’s press. Every copy made introduced the possibility of “scribal error.” Fortunately, comparisons between manuscripts of widely varying age have shown very few and minor discrepancies. Not too surprising because there was always a very rigorous review process because of the theological necessity for accuracy.
  • I would suggest that there is far more likelihood of scribal errors in Biblical numbers than in alphabetical text. The reason is that Hebrew does not have numerals! Like so-called “Roman Numerals,” Hebrew “numerals” are composed of alphabetical characters assigned numeric values. Consequently, working with numbers in a Hebrew document is cumbersome. As much or more so, in fact, than Roman Numerals in Latin text.
  • Ussher’s calculations were supposedly accurate to year, day and even time of day. Ten generations of round-offs makes a mess of that theory!

Patriarchal longevity

We all know that the life spans of Adam’s descendants were much higher before the flood than after. There was a hyperbolic decline after the flood, rapid at first, then more and more gradual, stabilizing after the Conquest of Canaan.

This graph shows lifespans of the Bible’s patriarchs from Adam through the prophet Eli.

Why? One can only speculate. Most such guesses blame it on decreasing health and increasing pestilence brough on by increasing sin. But the biggest increase in sin came before the flood, and the graph above shows no decrease in that time span. Lamech’s “short” life is an anomaly easily explained by the violence of the age.

The next graph shows the decline from Noah forward:

Lifespans after the flood. A “Least Squares” fit of the data points verifies that ages from that time declined hyperbolically, approaching an asymptote at around 30 years of age. Obviously, the downward trend has reversed somewhat over the last millennia or so due to cultural changes in health and hygiene.

To me, the second graph looks like an equilibrium chart. Here’s another of my totally speculative scenarios:

  1. Some 5.5 billion years after the formation of the planets from the sun’s accretion disk, earth had more or less stabilized. The last globally catastrophic event was the Chicxulub asteroid impact off Yucatan 66 million years ago. That event caused so much climate disruption and destruction to the global ecosystems that 75% of all plant and animal species on earth at the time went extinct. Including most dinosaurs.
  2. With God’s nudging, the adaptive capabilities that He had built into His living creations were able to heal the damage caused by the asteroid impact and push the mammals, including ancient mankind, into a position of supremacy.
  3. God “planted” Adam and Eve in the Garden 6,000+ years ago. Perhaps a bit earlier, depending on translational issues and whether or not generations are skipped in the genealogy for any reason. Clearly (based on the rounded data points), absolute accuracy in the numbers was not attempted by the human authors of the Bible.
  4. Despite the terrible sinfulness that developed over the course of the antediluvian earth, there appears to have been no consequent reduction in human lifespan during the time.
  5. The Flood, discussed below and in previous articles, I believe to have been brought about supernaturally when God caused the vast quantities of water known to be contained in the earth’s mantle transition layer to be flushed out into the oceans through volcanos on the midoceanic ridges.
  6. It is conceivable to me that the unprecedented activity of the submerged volcanoes could have triggered or hastened atmospheric changes that caused lifespans to get shorter and shorter over the succeeding several hundred years.

Alternatively, perhaps around the time of the flood, God simply triggered DNA changes that shortened human lifespans over that time frame.

Note, however, that the extreme longevity recorded for the Biblical patriarchs did not necessarily apply to anyone else during the period! The assumption that all mankind was long-lived has been incorporated into Judeo-Christian tradition without Biblical support.

Corruption

Genesis 6:1–8

[5] The LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
—Genesis 6:5 (ESV)

The first Period of Corruption, which I’ll cover here, extends from Cain, presumably from some time before his ill-fated offering and subsequent murder of Abel, until the Great Flood, traditionally, per Ussher, around 2348 BC.

One of many preflood timelines on the web. Most, like this one, are based on Ussher’s dating, with Adam’s creation in 4004 BC.

Why was there so much corruption on earth during that period? Is it just because of paganism and the brutality of prehistoric times? Perhaps, but prehistoric peoples had to work very hard to survive, so how did they find the time and why would they waste that much energy doing unproductive things?

Logic would seem to dictate that life then, for them, would be somewhat like one typically finds in the modern era when isolated pockets of stone age villages are found in undeveloped areas of the world.

I will attempt below to show that the post-Eden world started out more or less like I would have expected, but probably during the lifespan of Jared, conditions changed radically due to a barely imaginable external stimulus that changed the world in ways that still affect us today.

Most of this will be new to most of you.

Second celestial rebellion

[6:1] In time, when men began to multiply on earth, and daughters were born to them, [2] the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were attractive; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose. [3] ADONAI said, “My Spirit will not live in human beings forever, for they too are flesh; therefore their life span is to be 120 years.” [4] The N’filim [Nephilim, giants] were on the earth in those days, and also afterwards, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them; these were the ancient heroes, men of renown.

[5] ADONAI saw that the people on earth were very wicked, that all the imaginings of their hearts were always of evil only. [6] ADONAI regretted that he had made humankind on the earth; it grieved his heart. [7] ADONAI said, “I will wipe out humankind, whom I have created, from the whole earth; and not only human beings, but animals, creeping things and birds in the air; for I regret that I ever made them.” [8] But Noach [Noah] found grace in the sight of ADONAI.
—Genesis 6:1–8 (CJB)

Although rarely taught or preached, I regard these eight verses as one of the most foundational passages in the Bible, because:

  1. It sets a baseline for human depravity and illustrates the perfidy even of angels.
  2. It furnishes a rationale for why God determined to bring the Great Flood.
  3. It provides a background for understanding the important subject of New Testament demonology.

Both humans and angels were created with freewill, and freewill always opens doors to rebellion!

Verse 8 is usually considered to be part of the Flood story in English translations with inserted headings (like ESV), but the two following verses (9 and 10) are a very brief toledah, so Moses considered the contrast of Noah’s righteousness to the evil of that age to be part of this story, separate from God’s announcement of coming destruction and His call for Noah to build an Ark.

If the Serpent’s actions in the Garden were part of his prideful fall from heaven (Isaiah 14:11–15), then that is the first recorded celestial rebellion.

Genesis 6:1–8 is then the second.

The sons of God

the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose.
—Genesis 6:2 (ESV)

The sons of God and the daughters of men. ©Daniel Chester French, 1923. French is best known as sculptor of the Lincoln Memorial.

Generations of scholars have argued over the identity of the sons of God as referenced in this context, despite the fact that elsewhere in scripture the term transparently refers to angelic beings.

Three theories are popular in Common Era (Anno Domine) churches and synagogues:

  • The most popular since the Patristic Age (specifically, beginning with Augustine of Hippo) is the idea that the “sons of God” were the “Godly line of Seth“, and the ladies in question were the “ungodly line of Cain.”

But Scripture nowhere implies that Seth’s descendants were by nature Godly or Cain’s ungodly, or that such unions were forbidden. And this theory fails to account for the Nephilim (see below).

  • The second most popular is that the sin was polygamy by evil kings, nobles or aristocrats.

But polygamy was not prohibited, even much later in the Monarchy period, and again, where did the Nephilim come from?

  • I’ll discuss the least popular but correct view here. Sure, I’m willing to be dogmatic about this!

The question was a hot topic even in the 1st century, and much of the thinking of that era is reflected in 1 Enoch, and The Book of Giants, discussed above. These and other related texts uniformly identify the “sons of God” as angels, and in fact, the term is often unmistakably used for angels in canonical scripture. Angels are classified according to function, and those in Genesis 6 are called “Watchers” in the extrabiblical literature. In the Bible, that term only appears in Daniel 4. That they are indeed angelic beings is given a stamp of authenticity in Jude and 2 Peter where the book of 1 Enoch is quoted.

The angelic rebellion, the giants, the corruption of humans, the Flood, and the confusion of tongues at Babel were events that effected all peoples of the world, not just the Jews. All of these events show up in some form in the writings of many ancient cultures around the world.

The Mesopotamian Epic of Gilgamesh, for example, famously mentions the Flood. This same tale and other related cuneiform tablets also mention demigods called the Apkallu who are counterparts of the rebellious angels, who corrupt the civilized world and spawn giant offspring. Gilgamesh himself was one of these giants.

As for the Biblical account, the primary source of doubt is that many scholars today question whether an angel even can (a) feel lust for a mortal woman or (b) consummate such lust.

Both of those questions hinge on what you believe about the ontological nature of angels. That’s a tough question, because nothing in the Bible or in any extrabiblical literature that I’m aware of provides a clearcut definition of “angelhood.” Are they corporeal beings, or spirit beings, or both? There is no seminary class on “angelic anatomy and physiology.” My opinion as a student of science is that no corporeal being could survive the rigors of the universe beyond earth without something like a spaceship; however, the following passage seems to be sufficiently clear:

[13] And to which of the angels has he ever said, “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet”? [from Psalm 110:1]
[14] Are they not all ministering spirits sent out to serve for the sake of those who are to inherit salvation?
—Hebrews 1:13–14 (ESV) emphasis mine

Because I’ve already described angelic beings in detail in Gods and Demons, I’m going to state here simply that I believe that they are disembodied spirits created alongside the Universe to be God’s agents for its administration.

I was taught years ago that the “sons of God” in Genesis 6 were angels who had taken possession of human men; but in the article linked here, I wrote, as I now firmly believe,

This unnatural union of Watchers and human women did not require “possession” of human males by the Watchers. The Bible includes a number of examples of angelic beings taking human form and exhibiting human function. 

Whenever angels appeared to humans, Biblically, they appeared in human form, probably for the sake of establishing empathy. Whether these were solid human bodies or visual and aural illusions, they usually fooled the human observers.

A few instances are recorded where there was actual physical contact, so I have to think there was indeed a temporary corporeal body. For example, angels ate with Abraham, then with Lot in Sodom; an angel touched Elijah twice as he slept under a broom tree; and an angel struck Paul in prison. And when Jacob wrestled with God, I assume that he was wrestling with a preincarnate Christophany, meaning an appearance of the future messiah, similar in substance to an angel.

So no, I can’t think of any reason to doubt that angels can take on masculine human bodies and mate with fully human women.

Note: In Gen 6:2 where it says the sons of God “took wives for themselves”, most would agree that this is speaking of physically mating, not legally marrying. In any case, the following verse and its parallels is not saying that angels can’t mate, but rather that they have no angelic female counterparts and don’t need to procreate because they don’t die! See,

[35] but those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and to the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage, [36] for they cannot die anymore, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.
—Luke 20:35–36 (ESV)

For NT proof that the sons of God are angelic, the passages below are quoting from 1 Enoch, which is explicitly referring to the “sons of God” of Genesis 6.

[6] And the angels who did not stay within their own position of authority, but left their proper dwelling, he has kept in eternal chains under gloomy darkness until the judgment of the great day— [7] just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.

[14] It was also about these that Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of his holy ones, [15] to execute judgment…”
—Jude 6–7; 14–15a (ESV)

[4] For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept until the judgment; [5] if he did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a herald of righteousness, with seven others, when he brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly;
—2 Peter 2:4–5 (ESV)

The daughters of men

I don’t see anything abnormal about this group. Human women.

I see no reason to think that Sethite women would have been any less likely than Cainite women to be seduced by the sons of God. Whether the women shared any guilt with the angels is not clear, but certainly the angels in particular were severely punished.

The Nephilim

This is where it gets really interesting. Let’s start by comparing two translations of verse 4.

The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown.
—Genesis 6:4 (ESV)

Now the giants were upon the earth in those days; and after that when the sons of God were wont to go in to the daughters of men, they bore children to them, those were the giants of old, the men of renown.
—Genesis 6:4 (LXX-B)

The ESV (English Standard Version) is of course one of the most popular English translations among 21st century Protestants. The second version here is an English translation of the LXX (or Septuagint), which itself is a 2nd century BC translation from Hebrew into Greek.

Nephilim“, הַנְּפִלִ֞ים, pronounced nə-feel-EEM is a transliteration, not a translation, of the plural form of Hebrew נְפִיל, pronounced nə-FEEL.

The first problem here is that some question whether it’s even the right word. The old Hebrew has no vowels (except in this word, the yod, (י) functions like an English “Y” used as a vowel. A similar word, nophilim, pronounced with an “o” would translate to “fallen ones,” which would fit in either case, but the consensus is that “Nephilim” is the correct word where it occurs in the Hebrew Old Testament. This word represents “a bully, a tyrant, or a giant.”

The LXX translators, who were certainly cultural insiders, rendered it as Greek γίγαντες (gigantes), which you probably need no help to translate to English.

Now the canonical Bible, OT and NT, has nothing else to say about the nature of the Nephilim, aside from the observation that they were הַגִּבֹּרִ֛ים (the gibborim), the warriors, heroes, mighty men, or men of renown.

It’s fairly common “church knowledge”, or tradition, that the Nephilim were offspring of the angel males and human females of Gen 6:2. For confirmation you have to go to extrabiblical literature like 1 Enoch. It would take a lot to convince me that this view is wrong.

What else do we know about them? Apparently, they were, indeed, giants. How big? Well, there is a problem with 1 Enoch. It describes them as 300 cubits (about 450 feet) tall! That’s around 3½ blue whale lengths, or 3½ times the size of Patagotitan mayorum, the largest known dinosaur, head to tail. I think that “flesh and blood” that large would not be able to survive in earth’s gravity.

I have that problem with the supergiants, but we do have some examples of Nephilim size from canonical Scripture. The Philistine, Goliath the Gittite (from Gath) was a later descendent of Anak. The Anakim were related to the Nephilim. The Masoretic text has Goliath at “six cubits and a span”, or 9 feet 9 inches. Josephus says, “four cubits and a span”, or 6 feet 9 inches, but Josephus was very fallible in some of his descriptions.

“David and Goliath”, 18th century painting by Charles Errad.

Og, an Amorite king of Bashan (in the Golan Heights area), was also a Nephilim giant. Scripture describes him as “the last survivor of the giant Rephaites.” The Rephaites were a clan of Nephilim. We know that King Og was a giant, but all we know of his particular size is that his bed was “nine cubits long and four cubits wide”, approximately 13½ feet by 6 feet. That is probably not an accurate gauge of Og’s size, because the bed dimensions are most likely ceremonial. They are exactly the same as the reported dimensions of the ceremonial bed at the top of the Ziggurat of Babylon, built for Baal and his consort.

If you are a hyper literalist, you may be inclined to prefer the 450-foot size because the Israelite spies reported that “we are like grasshoppers to them.” To me, that was an obvious exaggeration, but you have to believe that a conservative hermeneutic allows for exaggerations. Which you know by now that I do!

Consequences

Now, here is a big assumption, that I think is probably true…

Shades of the Nephilim

The Nephilim were big, bad, barbaric warriors, but that was far, far from them at their worst!

We’re delving into the extrabiblical for information now, where the Bible itself is silent. The late Michael Heiser, a scholar of ancient Israel and the Ancient Near East, is my principal source on topics like this. He was very confident of what has been unearthed from Apocryphal and Pseudepigraphal literature. The relevant texts are, in some cases, part of church canon for Catholic, Orthodox, and some Protestant denominations. In other cases, the texts may have at one time been considered inspired but were later excluded.

I need to stress here that I do not in any way consider these texts to be inspired or infallible. I use them only to shed light on peripheral issues that are interesting to me, but that God chose not to address more fully in Scripture.

These sources may then explain much that the Bible doesn’t about this subject. For example:

  • They explicitly state that the Nephilim were the unnatural offspring of angel/human pairings.
  • For this to be even possible, one has to believe that the temporary physical body of a corporeal angel was very similar, not only externally, but also in its internal anatomical and physiological makeup, to a human male.
  • Nevertheless, the giantism, muscularity, and otherworldly fierceness of the children of this union is an indication of partial incompatibility between the genomes of the parents.
  • Despite their toughness, the Nephilim could die like humans. Remember Goliath.
  • Like humans, the “shades”, i.e., spirits, of the Nephilim angel/human hybrids were immortal and residing in Sheol after death.
  • However, unlike human spirits, the half-angel spirits aren’t bound to Sheol. Angels in general are spirit beings created for the purpose of managing the cosmos. As such, angels, “good” and “bad”, have full access, even to Sheol, and can enter or exit at will.
  • Satan, like most other angels and the Nephilim, can leave Sheol at will, until the eschatological end times. The angels who sinned in Genesis 6, on the other hand, are bound and cannot escape Sheol, according to Peter and Jude.
  • Most Christians today and for most of the last two millennia have believed that demons are “fallen angels.” Aside from some prophetic references about “worshipping demons”, which might be a reference to the sons of God assigned to the nations at the Babel “scattering”, there is no Biblical evidence of that.
Ancient Hebrew conception of Sheol, the Underworld. As its name suggests, this region is assumed to lie beneath the surface of earth, but since it is the realm of spirits, it could be an undetectable phantom world, here or anywhere else either within or beyond the cosmos. This illustration, artist unknown, depicts a desert-like half for the ungodly, and an Eden-like half for the Godly, separated by an impassable chasm. Note that the human figure walking on the left bank would actually be a disembodied spirit.
Demons

According to ancient belief and overwhelming evidence in the Apocrypha, and in the rest of the Ancient Near East, the demons are those very same half breed Nephilim spirits, now free to wander the earth!

They are able to leave Sheol because of their angelic heritage. But because of their human heritage, they want to be embodied. Because, like their angel parent, or perhaps both parents, they are evil, their delight is in causing mischief. A big part of that is “entering” into humans and causing them harm.

Much of Jesus’ healing ministry was clearly healing natural diseases. But often we are told that he “cast out demons.” Some of those may have inflicted their hosts with disease, but some of them evidently caused stress directly.

Post-Flood giants

It is easy to see why OT demons, separated from their physical bodies, could have survived the Great Flood. They were spirits, not confined to the surface of the earth, and immortal, so only God, their creator, could destroy them or bind them in Sheol.

The problem is that there were clearly Nephilim giants in the Near East after the Great Flood. Did they survive the Flood? According to Scripture, only eight people survived the flood—Noah and his family.

Heiser and others provide three possible alternatives to explain their post-flood return:

  • Heiser doesn’t commit, but his favorite is that angels continued to violate human women after the Flood. He finds possible support for this view in Genesis 6.4. Let’s look again at the two translations presented above:

The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when[ever] the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown.
—Genesis 6:4 (ESV) emphasis mine

Now the giants were upon the earth in those days; and after that when[ever] the sons of God were wont to go in to the daughters of men, they bore children to them, those were the giants of old, the men of renown.
—Genesis 6:4 (LXX-B) emphasis mine

Heiser points out that the Hebrew אֲשֶׁר (asher), translated “when” here, has a wide range of meanings and could easily be translated “whenever”, as I have shown in brackets above. He then suggests that “in those days” can only refer back to verse 1:

[6:1] When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them,
—Genesis 6:1 (ESV)

That being the case, then verse 4 is apparently saying that, just as in “those days”, the days under discussion when the angles sinned and the Nephilim were born, it would all happen again. Angels will continue to lust after human women and giants will once again be born. Perhaps even after the flood, with the first crop of giants now dead.

Maybe. If so, then have the angels finally learned their lessons? The giants of the Bible have been eradicated, and it would seem that none have been born in millennia.

  • A second possibility is that the giants themselves mated with humans and one or more of the eight people on the ark had some of their DNA. I somewhat favor this explanation myself because it would explain not only the existence of post-flood giants, but also their eventual disappearance.

One would think that giantism would confer a genetic advantage, but perhaps not, for a number of possible reasons. Some were obviously born over the first centuries, but eventually they were hunted to extinction.

  • Or perhaps the flood wasn’t universal after all, and some “flesh” outside its boundaries survived. Walton favors a regional flood. My faith wouldn’t be destroyed if he is right, but I’m pretty dogmatic about a global flood.
Timing of the rebellion

The Bible only puts the beginning of the sin of the angels somewhere in the antediluvian (pre-flood) era. Extrabiblical sources say that it started during the lifetime of Jared (roughly halfway between Expulsion and Flood). It no doubt extended up until the flood. As just discussed, if it resumed after the flood, that would explain the Anakim and other tribes of Nephilim giants that existed until the monarchy period in Israel.

A major part of the story in 1 Enoch is that the sinning angels asked Enoch to intercede with God for them when they begin to face punishment. In my view, it seems likely that God “took” Enoch, Jared’s son, precisely to fill that role.


The Location of the Garden of Eden

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This is an extraction from a larger article entitled, Exploring the Garden of Eden.

I absolutely believe that the Garden of Eden was a real place, Adam and Eve were two real people, and even though there are some language issues to deal with, the story related is real and vital, and the time frame geologically recent, i.e., 6,000 (Ussher) to 10,000 (Whitcomb, if the genealogies skip some generations) years ago.

Where was the Garden located?

Most commentators seem to favor one of two general regions for the Garden: either northern or southern Mesopotamia, though proposals exist for locations surrounding the Arabian subcontinent and in eastern Africa. I’ve seen one suggestion that Eden lies at the bottom of the Red Sea, and another that puts it in the Indian Ocean.

Some proposed locations for Eden, per Babylon Rising.

Northern Mesopotamian versions tend to favor Eastern Turkey/Armenia, since (a) there is a perception that Shinar is in that area, based on Genesis 11:2 (ESV): “And as people migrated from the east, they found a plain in the land of Shinar and settled there”; and (b) the headwaters of both the Tigris and Euphrates rivers originate in that general vicinity.

Possible Mesopotamian locations, per Blue Letter Bible.

Personally, I have favored a southern Iraq location for years, since obtaining a copy of an unpublished book titled, simply, Eden, by a late pastor named David J. Gibson, who understood that rivers don’t divide flowing downstream as described in Genesis 2:10 (ESV), “A river flowed out of Eden to water the garden, and there it divided and became four rivers.” Gibson suggested, and I agree with him, that this verse should be interpreted from the perspective of an observer within the Garden gazing out at four rivers converging as they entered the Garden.

This is awkward language for us, but not necessarily for Moses in antiquity, writing in Hebrew. Consider that in Genesis 2:8 (ESV), “the LORD God planted a garden in Eden, in the east”. This implies to me that the four rivers converged in the western part of Eden before flowing through the Garden, which was planted in the eastern part.

This makes sense, and from a hydrodynamics standpoint, it is the only interpretation that makes sense. Tributaries converge, they don’t diverge. If, for some reason, a river splits to flow around an obstruction or a sandbar, it will always come back together downstream nearby. If, for some reason, it splits to flow down two or more separate drainage basins, an unstable pattern results. One path will erode more quickly than the other(s), and eventually that path will “steal” all the flow from the other(s).

The only exception from that rule is the case of delta flow, but deltas aren’t formed by erosion, they’re formed by deposition of silt carried downstream in the water. As a river flows onto a plain and slows down, turbulence decreases, and silt falls out of suspension and stays more or less where it drops. Without sufficient turbulence to pick it up again, there is just enough energy available to keep the channels open.

Large deltas usually form at the mouth of a river where water leaving the delta’s channels flows into the sea or a lake. Sometimes deltas form inland, usually where a mountain stream empties onto a plain. The water from an inland delta will either evaporate, sink into the substrate, or collect into a single stream or a lake. Two examples are shown below.


Pishon ? The deltaic terminal of Wadi Al-Batin. From Ali Al-Dousari on Researchgate

Genesis 2:10 would make total sense if the four “rivers” were delta channels, but the naming of those four rivers in verses 11–14 belies that possibility. Indeed, in my opinion the naming of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers conclusively fixes the location of the Garden in southern Iraq.

What about the other two rivers named?

The Pishon is fairly well defined because verse 11 says that it “flowed around the whole land of Havilah.” Havilah was a son of Cush who settled in what today is northwest Arabia. 1 Samuel 15:7 (ESV) defines that location: “And Saul defeated the Amalekites from Havilah as far as Shur, which is east of Egypt.” “Flowed around” could be literal (I found a map showing the Pishon as an ocean current flowing counterclockwise around the entire Arabian subcontinent), but more likely it simply means that it flowed through and provided water for Havilah. Gibson equated the Pishon with Arabia’s Wadi Al-Batin, an ancient and now-dry river and delta system flowing northeast through Saudi Arabia and Kuwait to the Tigris/Euphrates valley. I think he was right.

Gihon? Karun River, Wikipedia

As for the Gihon River that “flowed around the whole land of Cush” (verse 13), I would equate that with the Karun River, flowing out of Iran, through the ancient land of the Elamites.

I think that Christian commentators are thrown off by an assumption that “Cush” refers only to the region around Ethiopia and Somalia. My view is that Cush (a son of Ham) and his descendants settled large regions of Asia, as well as the upper Nile area. They apparently mixed with the Canaanites in the Lavant, and Nimrod, a son of Cush, was described in Genesis 10 as “9a mighty hunter before ADONAI. … 10His kingdom began with Bavel, Erekh, Akkad and Kalneh, in the land of Shin‘ar.” These abodes of Nimrod are all lands of southern Mesopotamia. Nimrod was, I’m convinced, none other than Sargon of Akkad, the world’s first great emperor. Elam and Asshur were Semites, but Cush may have extended into the Steppes alongside Shem (see Nimrod the Empire Builder: Architect of Shock and Awe, 2023, by Douglas Petrovich).

It’s admittedly a stretch, but I have wondered if perhaps the ancient Kushan Empire, spanning the central Asian “stans” might have gotten its name from Cush/Kush. If so, then the influence of Cush stretched all the way to the Xiongnu tribe, north of the Yellow River, because the peoples who started the Kushan Empire, centered around Afghanistan, where refugees from the Xiongnu.

Putting all this together, I think that the following map states the case for Eden in southern Iraq:

My own opinion as evidently shared by someone else. ©Mavink

What about the placing of Shinar in Turkey? I agree with the predominant view that Shinar is the area once occupied by Sumer, between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers. It’s not hard to explain away migration “from the east.” I suspect that waters from the Great Flood took years to retreat from low-lying areas, so descendants of Noah returning to their homeland in Shinar would have initially moved southeast along the spine of the Zagros Mountains. Saying that Shinar is west of Ararat because they entered from the east is analogous to assuming I live west of my church because I (sometimes) approach it from the west. The full story on that is that I live to the southeast and occasionally take a circuitous route along the freeway.

Post-flood migrations from Ararat to Shinar. From Google Earth. Annotations by Ron Thompson.


Exploring the Garden of Eden

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  1. Where was the Garden located?
  2. Comparison of Genesis 1 and 2
    1. Walton’s proposal of separate events
    2. The apparent contradictions
    3. Theological implications
  3. Exposition

Aside from inevitable passing references here and in future posts, I think I’m finally done with banging a drum over Genesis 1. I view verse 1 as the definitive, all-important statement by God that He is the uncreated, everlasting creator of all that exists. (see Gen 1:2 through 2:3), I think, are a polemic against the pervasive pagan claims of the surrounding cultures and of the Israelites, who at the time of writing were migrating from one pagan enclave (Egypt) to another (Canaan). In this post, I want to Move on to chapter 2, verses 4 and following.

I absolutely believe that the Garden of Eden was a real place, Adam and Eve were two real people, and even though there are some language issues to deal with, the story related is real and vital, and the time frame geologically recent, i.e., 6,000 (Ussher) to 10,000 (Whitcomb, if the genealogies skip some generations) years ago.

The first order of business is to tell you where I think the Garden was.

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Where was the Garden located?

Most commentators seem to favor one of two general regions for the Garden: either northern or southern Mesopotamia, though proposals exist for locations surrounding the Arabian subcontinent and in eastern Africa. I’ve seen one suggestion that Eden lies at the bottom of the Red Sea, and another that puts it in the Indian Ocean.

Some proposed locations for Eden, per Babylon Rising.

Northern Mesopotamian versions tend to favor Eastern Turkey/Armenia, since (a) there is a perception that Shinar is in that area, based on Genesis 11:2 (ESV): “And as people migrated from the east, they found a plain in the land of Shinar and settled there”; and (b) the headwaters of both the Tigris and Euphrates rivers originate in that general vicinity.

Possible Mesopotamian locations, per Blue Letter Bible.

Personally, I have favored a southern Iraq location for years, since obtaining a copy of an unpublished book titled, simply, Eden, by a late pastor named David J. Gibson, who understood that rivers don’t divide flowing downstream as described in Genesis 2:10 (ESV), “A river flowed out of Eden to water the garden, and there it divided and became four rivers.” Gibson suggested, and I agree with him, that this verse should be interpreted from the perspective of an observer within the Garden gazing out at four rivers converging as they entered the Garden.

This is awkward language for us, but not necessarily for Moses in antiquity, writing in Hebrew. Consider that in Genesis 2:8 (ESV), “the LORD God planted a garden in Eden, in the east”. This implies to me that the four rivers converged in the western part of Eden before flowing through the Garden, which was planted in the eastern part.

This makes sense, and from a hydrodynamics standpoint, it is the only interpretation that makes sense. Tributaries converge, they don’t diverge. If, for some reason, a river splits to flow around an obstruction or a sandbar, it will always come back together downstream nearby. If, for some reason, it splits to flow down two or more separate drainage basins, an unstable pattern results. One path will erode more quickly than the other(s), and eventually that path will “steal” all the flow from the other(s).

The only exception from that rule is the case of delta flow, but deltas aren’t formed by erosion, they’re formed by deposition of silt carried downstream in the water. As a river flows onto a plain and slows down, turbulence decreases, and silt falls out of suspension and stays more or less where it drops. Without sufficient turbulence to pick it up again, there is just enough energy available to keep the channels open.

Large deltas usually form at the mouth of a river where water leaving the delta’s channels flows into the sea or a lake. Sometimes deltas form inland, usually where a mountain stream empties onto a plain. The water from an inland delta will either evaporate, sink into the substrate, or collect into a single stream or a lake. Two examples are shown below.


Pishon ? The deltaic terminal of Wadi Al-Batin. From Ali Al-Dousari on Researchgate

Genesis 2:10 would make total sense if the four “rivers” were delta channels, but the naming of those four rivers in verses 11–14 belies that possibility. Indeed, in my opinion the naming of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers conclusively fixes the location of the Garden in southern Iraq.

What about the other two rivers named?

The Pishon is fairly well defined because verse 11 says that it “flowed around the whole land of Havilah.” Havilah was a son of Cush who settled in what today is northwest Arabia. 1 Samuel 15:7 (ESV) defines that location: “And Saul defeated the Amalekites from Havilah as far as Shur, which is east of Egypt.” “Flowed around” could be literal (I found a map showing the Pishon as an ocean current flowing counterclockwise around the entire Arabian subcontinent), but more likely it simply means that it flowed through and provided water for Havilah. Gibson equated the Pishon with Arabia’s Wadi Al-Batin, an ancient and now-dry river and delta system flowing northeast through Saudi Arabia and Kuwait to the Tigris/Euphrates valley. I think he was right.

Gihon? Karun River, Wikipedia

As for the Gihon River that “flowed around the whole land of Cush” (verse 13), I would equate that with the Karun River, flowing out of Iran, through the ancient land of the Elamites.

I think that Christian commentators are thrown off by an assumption that “Cush” refers only to the region around Ethiopia and Somalia. My view is that Cush (a son of Ham) and his descendants settled large regions of Asia, as well as the upper Nile area. They apparently mixed with the Canaanites in the Lavant, and Nimrod, a son of Cush, was described in Genesis 10 as “9a mighty hunter before ADONAI. … 10His kingdom began with Bavel, Erekh, Akkad and Kalneh, in the land of Shin‘ar.” These abodes of Nimrod are all lands of southern Mesopotamia. Nimrod was, I’m convinced, none other than Sargon of Akkad, the world’s first great emperor. Elam and Asshur were Semites, but Cush may have extended into the Steppes alongside Shem (see Nimrod the Empire Builder: Architect of Shock and Awe, 2023, by Douglas Petrovich).

It’s admittedly a stretch, but I have wondered if perhaps the ancient Kushan Empire, spanning the central Asian “stans” might have gotten its name from Cush/Kush. If so, then the influence of Cush stretched all the way to the Xiongnu tribe, north of the Yellow River, because the peoples who started the Kushan Empire, centered around Afghanistan, where refugees from the Xiongnu.

Putting all this together, I think that the following map states the case for Eden in southern Iraq:

My own opinion as evidently shared by someone else. ©Mavink

What about the placing of Shinar in Turkey? I agree with the predominant view that Shinar is the area once occupied by Sumer, between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers. It’s not hard to explain away migration “from the east.” I suspect that waters from the Great Flood took years to retreat from low-lying areas, so descendants of Noah returning to their homeland in Shinar would have initially moved southeast along the spine of the Zagros Mountains. Saying that Shinar is west of Ararat because they entered from the east is analogous to assuming I live west of my church because I (sometimes) approach it from the west. The full story on that is that I live to the southeast and occasionally take a circuitous route along the freeway.

Post-flood migrations from Ararat to Shinar. From Google Earth. Annotations by Ron Thompson.

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Comparison of Genesis 1 and 2

The creation passage and the Garden passage are separated by verse 2:4 (see below).

There seem to be contradictions between Genesis 1 and Genesis 2, as traditionally understood. Because I believe Scripture is inerrant, but tradition is not, I inevitably try to let the former inform the latter.

Here are the relevant passages that I wish to discuss now:

[11] And God said, “Let the earth sprout vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind, on the earth.” And it was so. [12] The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed according to their own kinds, and trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. [13] And there was evening and there was morning, the third day.


[26] Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

[27] So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.

[28] And God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” [29] And God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food.

—Genesis 1:11–13,26–29 (ESV)

and

[4b] …in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens. [5] When no bush of the field was yet in the land and no small plant of the field had yet sprung up—for the LORD God had not caused it to rain on the land, and there was no man to work the ground, [6] and a mist was going up from the land and was watering the whole face of the ground— [7] then the LORD God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature. [8] And the LORD God planted a garden in Eden, in the east, and there he put the man whom he had formed. [9] And out of the ground the LORD God made to spring up every tree that is pleasant to the sight and good for food. The tree of life was in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.


[15] The LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to work it and keep it.


[18] Then the LORD God said, “It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him.” [19] Now out of the ground the LORD God had formed every beast of the field and every bird of the heavens and brought them to the man to see what he would call them. And whatever the man called every living creature, that was its name. [20] The man gave names to all livestock and to the birds of the heavens and to every beast of the field. But for Adam there was not found a helper fit for him. [21] So the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh. [22] And the rib that the LORD God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man. [23] Then the man said,

“This at last is bone of my bones
and flesh of my flesh;
she shall be called Woman,
because she was taken out of Man.”

—Genesis 2:4b–9,15,18–23 (ESV)

Almost all conservative Evangelicals believe that Genesis 1:27 describes the creation of Adam and Eve: “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.” But Scripture never actually states that these are Adam and Eve!

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Walton’s proposal of separate events

I have suggested in past posts that Christians should be willing to consider alternatives where erroneous understandings might exist in uninspired translations and interpretations, but not in inspired autographs (the original manuscripts as prepared by the human authors). When comparing these passages, we must account for apparent contradictions and ambiguities.

John H. Walton, a conservative Old Testament scholar with Moody Bible Institute and later with Wheaton College, has proposed alternative understandings of these passages, suggesting that chapter 1 describes one human creation event, and chapter 2 a separate creation of just Adam and Eve. He bases this idea on several observations, including:

  • There are obvious contradictions in the reported order of the creation events (see below).
  • The descriptions of each category of creation in chapter 1, including humankind, gives the impression that a significant population of every species were created. Creation of just 2 humans in Genesis 1 would be a breaking of the pattern.
  • Verse 4 is a “toledah” (Hebrew for “generations”), which is a fragment of Scripture used to separate two “chapters”, or thematic passages, of Genesis.

These are the generations
of the heavens and the earth when they were created,
in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens.
—Genesis 2:4 (ESV)

Walton presents the following table to show how other toledoth (plural) relate to material preceding and following them:

— Walton, John H. The Lost World of Adam and Eve. Accordance electronic edition, version 1.0. Downers Grove: InterVarsity Press, 2017.
  • In the table, all of the cases marked as “sequel” separate events in the past from events in the future.
  • The three labeled “recursive” indicate cases where one individual or family is followed, then the timeline is reset to follow another. In these cases, there may be chronological overlap, but no detail added to the first.
  • In the single case labeled “parallel/sequel” Cain is followed, then the timeline reset to Adam; then a toledah introduces parallel coverage of Seth.
  • There is no precedent in the ten cases enumerated for a toledah introducing an expanded account of the same thing previously covered. This is not definitive proof, but it is suggestive.

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The apparent contradictions

First, “creation” in verse 27 is the Hebrew word בָּרָא (bara‘, which means ex nihilo creation, or creation from nothing at all). In contrast, the Genesis 2 description is יָצַר (yatsar, which means to form something specifically by molding some constituent material into a shape, i.e., as a potter forming something in clay). The potter imagery is consistent with forming Adam “of dust from the ground”. “Dust”, here is Hebrew עָפָר, (‘afar), meaning things like “dry soil”, “loose earth”, “rubble”, or even “ashes”. None of these is clay, and none of them alone can be worked by a potter, but the intended image is of the detritus of death. More likely, it simply refers to the familiar elements on the periodic table, pasted by God into organic molecules.

Second, and more telling, we appear to have a serious contradiction regarding the creation of beasts of the field and birds of the heavens.

The sequence as written in Genesis 2 is (a) God formed Adam and gave him life; (b) God planted a garden on the east side of Eden; (c) God placed Adam in that garden; (d) God caused plants to grow from the ground; (e) God gave Adam his mission statement; (g) from the ground, God “formed” (yatsar) the land and air creatures; (h) Adam named the creatures; and finally (i) God formed Eve from Adam’s rib.

The serious contradiction here is that:

  1. in chapter 1, air creatures are created on day 5 and land creatures on day 6, both of these prior to the creation of man on day 6.
  2. In chapter 2, Adam (though not Eve) was created on or after day 6 while both the air and land creatures were created later.

The ESV translation above follows NIV in trying to resolve the problem by hedging on the language in 2:19. I can’t find any support for “Now the LORD God had formed“. This translation certainly does leave room for saying, “Oh, this isn’t where he forms them, that was already done.” But the correct translation seems to be “And out of the ground the LORD God formed.” Almost every translation words it this way, and even ESV includes that as a footnote. NIV is notorious for paraphrasing Scripture to make it say what they think it should say. I take this passage to mean that God formed new animals in the garden in addition to those that existed—possibly just new individuals, not new species.

I don’t see a clear, fair, and decisive path to resolving this contradiction.

On the other hand, if Genesis 2 is subsequent to Genesis 1 rather than a retelling, the garden theoretically becomes sacred space—a prototype tabernacle—and Adam’s race a priesthood.

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Theological implications

While the concept that Adam and Eve’s creation at a time when earth was already populated by humans may be startling, it answers more questions than it raises. It gives Cain a wife without requiring biologically harmful incest. It reveals who it was who Cain thought might kill him. It answers the question, where did all the people come from to populate the city that Cain founded.

By the way, what was that city? Depending on how you define the term, it may have been Uruk, shown on the map above with the four rivers of Eden. Uruk was founded about 6,000 years ago, which fits very nicely with the picture I’m painting here.

You may say, “But the Bible teaches we’re all descended from Adam!” Yes, it does, and since Noah was descended from Adam, and we’re descended from Noah, then where’s the problem? The other humans all perished in the Flood.

Are we also descended from the pre-Garden people? I don’t know. Perhaps no pre-Garden genes were in the chromosomes of Noah or Mrs. Noah. But would it have mattered if there was some mixing? I don’t think it matters if Noah had non-Adamic genes mixed in, any more than it matters that Jesus had genes not contributed by Judah or King David. Mitochondrial DNA shows that all humans today have a common “mother” and Y-chromosomal analysis shows a common “father”, but both of those are way too late to have been Mr. or Mrs. Noah’s. Due to the nature of genetic inheritance, it will never be possible to trace back that far.

The Genesis 1 creation, whether it was Adam or not, was created in the image of God. They, too, were righteous or sinful, saved or unsaved. The difference is that they had not eaten from the Tree of Knowledge, so they were presumably innocent in the same way as Adam and Eve before the fall.

But wait! you say. That means that they were immortal! No, it doesn’t. Were Adam and Eve immortal before the fall? I think “you will surely die” is talking about spiritual death, not physical. Maybe they were immortal, but if so, why was there a Tree of Life in the Garden?

Was death even possible, theologically, before the fall? That’s way too big a subject to take on here, in this post. I’ll eventually write about it. It’s a key question, since part of the reason some Christians shun fossil evidence is that they think it’s a violation of Scripture for animals to have died pre-fall. Obviously, I believe death was possible before the fall, but I owe you some analysis to justify my belief.

Then, there’s the biggest question of all. I’ve been telling you that the 7-day creation story is a polemic and not literally true as written. What about Adam and Eve, and the Garden? Well, that’s a whole ‘nother story. From Genesis 2 on out, there is way too much specificity for me to doubt. I mean, we have the begats, for crying out loud, and they are way too believable to dismiss.

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Exposition

I want to address just a few issues here that may seem confusing.

On the day that the LORD God made earth and heavens, no shrub of the field being yet on the earth and no plant of the field yet sprouted, for the LORD God had not caused rain to fall on the earth and there was no human to till the soil, and wetness would well from the earth to water all the surface of the soil…
—Genesis 2:4b–6 (Alter)

The first phrase above, ending “made earth and heavens”, bookends the Genesis 1 story, which begins with “In the beginning … heavens and earth”. That makes it more likely that the phrase is part of the toledah, packaging the entire process—”the day that the LORD God made the earth and heavens.” Most of you take this “day” as seven literal 24-hour days—I take it to mean the entire 13.8-billion-year period from the Big Bang to the formation of Adam.

The term “LORD God” here is the Hebrew “YHVH Elohim“, the first occurrence in Scripture of God’s covenant name.

In 2:5 we are told that, before God created Adam or planted the Garden, there was as yet no “brush of the field”, i.e., no wild vegetation, in the land (the Garden). Paleontology suggests that Homo sapiens has been around for about 200,000 years, but for most of that time they were strictly hunter-gatherers. Agriculture doesn’t appear until around 10,000 years ago, and it didn’t predominate until around 6,000 years ago. Domestication of livestock began during that same period. Given some flexibility in dating by means of Biblical genealogies, it is entirely realistic to date Genesis 2 somewhere in that 6-to-10,000-year time frame, and thus to consider that Genesis 2:5 implies that both herding (hunting) and farming (gathering) were inaugurated in the Garden.

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Next in series: The Ancient of Days


The Coming World War: Gog and Magog

Updated January 2022; original May 2015

  1. The Triggers
  2. The Deterrent
  3. The Players
  4. The Protest
  5. The War
  6. The Outcome
  7. The Timing

There are two major events on God’s prophetic calendar which could occur at any time, now or years from now. One, of course, is the Rapture. There are no other prophetic events which have to occur before the Rapture. The same can be said for the other imminent event, the War of Gog and Magog, described in Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39. It is this war that I want to discuss here, because it seems to me that all of the pieces for it are in place.

Gog and Magog, which I will refer to hereafter as, simply, The War, may happen either before or after the Rapture, but must precede Antichrist’s treaty and the Tribulation period. Why? A number of compelling reasons are proposed by Arnold Fruchtenbaum in his book, The Footsteps of the Messiah: The Sequence of Pretribulational Events. I may reprise additional reasons in a future posting, but for now I will simply say that the prophesied seven years of cleanup after the war seems to preclude any other possibility.

There are numerous geopolitical events and conditions that I saw as lining up or lined up when I first wrote this post in 2015. Now, in late 2021, not much has changed to alter my views.

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The Triggers

The War will be an invasion of Israel by Russia, Iran, and a number of additional players. As most news-savvy Americans know, Iran is allied with Russia, which sends them military technology, including advanced offensive and defensive armaments.

The West has long been worried about Iran’s nuclear missile development program. Over the last decade or so, Israel has launched several limited strikes against Iranian facilities in Iran itself and in their client state, Syria. Unfortunately, serious physical and political risks prohibit them from attacking in a more decisive manner.

With all the talk about Iran’s nuclear development, relatively little has been said about their build-up of conventional forces and armaments. According to GlobalFirepower.com, as of April 1, 2015, Iran had at that time over a half million active front-line military personnel, with 1.8 million reserves and almost 40 million citizens fit to serve. They were and surely are very highly trained and well equipped. The result is that their level of aggression against other Arab states was high. They continue to flex their military muscles, with two primary ends in view: (1) hegemony in the Middle East and ultimately the world; and (2) the total destruction of Israel in the short term, and the United States eventually.

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The Deterrent

The reason that The War has not yet begun is simply Eastern fear of Israel’s might, particularly with the US as her ally, along with a perennial inability of the Muslim faction in the Middle East to unite effectively in a common cause.

Clearly, the US alone is no longer a viable deterrent. Anti-Israel sentiment in our political and educational institutions and even in some American Jewish circles, has grown too strong. America is not mentioned in Biblical prophecy because we will voluntarily take no part in the defense of our allies. The EU and the United Nations will also certainly not side with Israel. I don’t believe that Iran would risk an attack on Israel on its own without first completing its nuclear program, but with Russia’s help and additional Shiite allies, there simply is no longer a viable deterrent. As for the lack of Muslim commonality, I believe that with powerful non-Muslim allies, the potential reward to Islam as a whole could at any time prove to be an overriding factor.

Players in the Gog & Magog War. Base map annotated by Ron Thompson

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The Players

Ezekiel 38:2-6 lists the participants we can expect to see coming against Israel in The War:

38 Now the word of the Lord came to me, saying, 2 “Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal, and prophesy against him, 3 and say, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Behold, I am against you, O Gog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal. 4 I will turn you around, put hooks into your jaws, and lead you out, with all your army, horses, and horsemen, all splendidly clothed, a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords. 5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya are with them, all of them with shield and helmet; 6 Gomer and all its troops; the house of Togarmah from the far north and all its troops — many people are with you. NKJV

Nations are defined Biblically by their peoples, not necessarily by the lands that they occupy; furthermore, they are named as they were in the day of writing, and boundaries occupied by the lands and peoples must be understood to be fluid over time. One would like to say, “Magog is Russia”, and “Gomer is Germany”, as was common in the early days of American “popular prophecy”, but it just is not that simple. Modern Eurasian civilization is an incredibly complex mixture of peoples who often can only roughly be identified, based largely on archaeological and linguistic evidence. With the exception of Gomer and Rosh (see below), I am more or less inclined to stick with my conclusions from some seven years ago when I prepared the attached map.

Gog and Magog: The invading forces will be led by “Gog, of the land of Magog” (v2a). Magog corresponds roughly to the area of modern European Russia, particularly the southwest region, between the Caspian and Black Seas, including Georgia and Azerbaijan. Of course, we won’t see a war launched by “Southwest European Russia.” My assumption is that the entire Russian Federation will be involved. Gog is not a name, but rather a leadership title, like “Pharaoh.” Presumably, then, this refers to Vladimir Putin or a successor. Russia is closely allied to Iran. With extensive natural resources of its own, Russia still desires to control Middle Eastern oil and natural gas, for strategic purposes.

Rosh, Meshech and Tubal: Gog is also the “prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal (v2b)”. These three names, and most of the others, can most likely be equated with some of the many nomadic tribes that over centuries swept west and south from Mongolia and the Russian Steppe regions. Meshech and Tubal constitute most of modern Turkey and are probably Scythian in origin. Though I seem to have omitted it from my map, I think that Rosh refers to the well-attested Rus people, namesakes of modern Russia, who migrated from western Russia and Belarus, southward into the Baltic regions. The peoples of the coastal areas west of the Black Sea are largely of Rus (again, Scythian) origin. European Turkey and parts of modern Bulgaria, Romania and Macedonia were known as Rus until after the fall of the Byzantine Empire to the Ottomans. From the time of the Ottoman conquests, the area has been largely Muslim.

Persia: Persia (v5a) of course refers to Iran, probably along with her client states of loyalist Syria; Hezbollah-controlled Lebanon, eastern Iraq and perhaps Yemen.

Cush: Ethiopia (or Cush, v5b) may refer to the upper Nile regions of modern Sudan, Ethiopia and Somalia, or it may refer to parts of Iraq. Or both. I believe that Cush, as referred to in Genesis 2:13, refers to the upper Mesopotamia region around the Diyala River, and that river is, in fact the Gichon, or Gihon, River of the same verse. Cush, a son of Ham, is thought to have populated a wide region of the ancient Middle East and Africa. The ancient empire of Babel, in modern Iraq, was founded by Nimrod, a Cushite.

Put: The KJV and most modern translations equate Put (v5c) with Libya; however, some authors including Fruchtenbaum claim that Libya is equivalent to “Lud”, and Somalia corresponds to “Put.” My own opinion is that Libya is primarily Put, and Somalia is part of the general region of Cush. I would place Lud in Tunisia and far western Libya.

S1cyythian Gomer?

Gomer: According to Josephus and some other early sources, Gomer (v6a), corresponds to Anatolian Galatia, in central Turkey; however, many conservative scholars have identified it with Germany, and that was the view taken by Hal Lindsey and Herbert W. Armstrong. I went with that in the original writing of this post, but I am now convinced that Gomer refers instead to the ancient Scythians, who were once united in a nomadic empire that covered much of the Steppe region north of the Black and Caspian Seas, eastwards into Mongolia, and westwards into Eastern Europe. I would surmise that the region in view here is the Islamic regions of Eastern Europe.

Beth Togarmah: The “House of Togarmah” (v6b) is located around present-day Armenia.

As you can see from this listing, all these pieces of the puzzle make total sense today, in the context of current geopolitical alignments. In fact, I would not hesitate to say that all or most of the colored regions on the map above will be included in the alliance.

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The Protest

I don’t believe that the US, the EU or the UN will lift a hand to help Israel. At most, there might be a weak diplomatic protest from these entities. They are becoming more and more anti-Semitic and anti-Israel. The Bible mentions no allies for Israel, aside from Almighty God Himself! Ezekiel 38:13 hints at the only protest from Israel’s neighbors:

13 Sheba, Dedan, the merchants of Tarshish, and all their young lions will say to you, ‘Have you come to take plunder? Have you gathered your army to take booty, to carry away silver and gold, to take away livestock and goods, to take great plunder?'”‘ NKJV

Sheba was located around modern northern Yemen, and Dedan is the present Al Ula in northwestern Saudi Arabia. Tarshish, mentioned in a number of Biblical passages, is known only to be someplace in the ancient Mediterranean area “far away” from Israel. Possibly the site of Carthage, or as usually cited, Spain. The reference to its “young lions” is an idiomatic expression indicating colonies or an empire; I would speculate that it actually has in mind the Emirates of Arabia, which are Saudi and American allies, and lean towards friendship with Israel.

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The War

Ezekiel 38:8-17 describes the setting and prosecution of the war:

8 After many days you will be visited. In the latter years you will come into the land of those brought back from the sword and gathered from many people on the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate; they were brought out of the nations, and now all of them dwell safely. 9 You will ascend, coming like a storm, covering the land like a cloud, you and all your troops and many peoples with you.”

10 ‘Thus says the Lord God: “On that day it shall come to pass that thoughts will arise in your mind, and you will make an evil plan: 11 You will say, ‘I will go up against a land of unwalled villages; I will go to a peaceful people, who dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates’ — 12 to take plunder and to take booty, to stretch out your hand against the waste places that are again inhabited, and against a people gathered from the nations, who have acquired livestock and goods, who dwell in the midst of the land. 13 Sheba, Dedan, the merchants of Tarshish, and all their young lions will say to you, ‘Have you come to take plunder? Have you gathered your army to take booty, to carry away silver and gold, to take away livestock and goods, to take great plunder?'”‘

14 “Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say to Gog, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “On that day when My people Israel dwell safely, will you not know it? 15 Then you will come from your place out of the far north, you and many peoples with you, all of them riding on horses, a great company and a mighty army. 16 You will come up against My people Israel like a cloud, to cover the land. It will be in the latter days that I will bring you against My land, so that the nations may know Me, when I am hallowed in you, O Gog, before their eyes.” 17 Thus says the Lord God: “Are you he of whom I have spoken in former days by My servants the prophets of Israel, who prophesied for years in those days that I would bring you against them? NKJV

This passage describes Israel today, a peaceful nation though not at peace, alive again after nearly 2,000 years, and dwelling in their own land, in relative safety, comfort and confidence. The invasion will come from the north, up into the mountains of Israel (and Jerusalem is always considered “up”, no matter where you come from). Russia, at least, is seeking booty: oil and gas, the mineral riches of the Dead Sea, and above all, the strategic positioning of the nation at the “crossroads of the world.” The booty listed here, as well as the weapons used, are metaphorical because Ezekiel could know nothing of today’s riches and weaponry.

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The Outcome

As described in Ezekiel 38:18-23

18 “And it will come to pass at the same time, when Gog comes against the land of Israel,” says the Lord God, “that My fury will show in My face. 19 For in My jealousy and in the fire of My wrath I have spoken: ‘Surely in that day there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel, 20 so that the fish of the sea, the birds of the heavens, the beasts of the field, all creeping things that creep on the earth, and all men who are on the face of the earth shall shake at My presence. The mountains shall be thrown down, the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.’ 21 I will call for a sword against Gog throughout all My mountains,” says the Lord God. “Every man’s sword will be against his brother. 22 And I will bring him to judgment with pestilence and bloodshed; I will rain down on him, on his troops, and on the many peoples who are with him, flooding rain, great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. 23 Thus I will magnify Myself and sanctify Myself, and I will be known in the eyes of many nations. Then they shall know that I am the Lord.”‘ NKJV

God will overtly and miraculously intervene, and the invading armies will be totally destroyed. The effects of God’s wrath will be felt and recognized around the world, with Russia’s homeland itself leveled. Reading on, the mountains of Israel will be literally covered with the dead and their armaments. Seven months will be required to bury the dead and seven years to dispose of the armaments.

I believe that tremendous damage will have been done to Israel and its armed forces, but at the close of this war, the power and might of Russia and the militant Muslim countries will be at a complete end. Into this milieu, I see the rise of a world leader, the Antichrist, who will take advantage of the chaos, offering to guarantee peace to all sides. Neither the Muslims nor the Anti-Semitic West will have power to prevent him from granting Israel the right to rebuild the Temple; thus will begin the Tribulation.

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The Timing

I have shown that The War could happen at any time. It may follow the Rapture, but I would not be at all surprised if it happened first, in order to give the world, and especially Israel, one final glimpse of God’s awesome power, and to give them one final chance to repent–or more likely, to demonstrate how utterly blind humanity can be!

Ezekiel 39:6b-8:
6b Then they shall know that I am the Lord. 7 So I will make My holy name known in the midst of My people Israel, and I will not let them profane My holy name anymore. Then the nations shall know that I am the Lord, the Holy One in Israel. 8 Surely it is coming, and it shall be done,” says the Lord God. “This is the day of which I have spoken.” NKJV

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